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Imagine if you and your income disappeared tomorrow.
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What would happen to your family?
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In today's episode, we are having the hard conversation about why you need life insurance and why life insurance is income protection and not an investment.
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Hope you'll stay tuned.
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Babe, what are we talking about today?
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Today we are having that fun conversation that everybody loves to talk about life insurance.
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Okay, I feel like we're just complete weirdos because I really like talking about life insurance because I am a planner and I like having a plan.
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But I understand why it's difficult for people to have this conversation and to plan for really what the worst case scenario would be.
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Like some people are just so avoidant that they literally just don't want to have the conversation.
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And I'm like, no, no, we're gonna talk about all the hard things because you don't plan for the emergency in the middle of your house spurning down.
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You plan for it while everything is still intact and calm and peaceful.
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Yeah, I would say it's a couple, there's a couple of reasons why people are kind of hesitant to have the conversation.
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I think one, like you said, some people like literally think that, like, oh, if I talk about death, like superstitious, something's gonna happen to me because I'm talking about it, which you know we don't subscribe to that.
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Yeah.
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And then also on top of that, like to be honest with you, the insurance stuff is a necessity.
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I 100% hard stop.
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If you're an adult and you have certain responsibilities, you need life insurance.
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However, it's not the fun part because the idea is that, like, you know, you're putting money into these different types of insurances, well, that's even just like your car insurance, disability insurance, health insurance, stuff like that.
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Your Apple Care insurance.
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Yeah.
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But you're hoping that you never actually have to use it.
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So people are like, oh, well, I'm throwing away money.
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And I'm like, I can understand where you're coming from because I don't like necessarily paying for my insurance, but I've seen what happens on the other end when you don't have those things in place.
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And I mean, throwing away money is a little extreme because they're protections, right?
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You hope to not have to use your car insurance, but in the event that you do, whether it's your fault or somebody else's, you're glad that you have it because it will cover the things that you need fixed.
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It'll cover your rental car, it'll give you that peace of mind to know that you know you're not going to be without a car for a certain amount of time.
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This is the same, but like to the nth degree.
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Yes.
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Right?
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Yes.
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I mean, I I have a sense of peace thinking about the insurance policies we have in place.
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And that's the goal.
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They give me peace.
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That's the goal.
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Like, so you use insurance policies as a form of risk mitigation.
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So, what are the risks that we're actually trying to cover in the scenario?
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So, you know, for today's episode for life insurance, the main risk that we're talking about is someone passing away prematurely.
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Now, this is, you know, for example, like just use like just Nye's example.
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If I was to pass away tomorrow, obviously that's like the worst thing that can happen, but you also don't want to add a financial burden on top of your family because the income that you otherwise would have been bringing in is no longer there.
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Right.
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And that's the purpose of life insurance in regards to what we're talking about today, mainly.
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Well, and I know that we're gonna get into it, but also not necessarily thinking about it as like the paycheck that's gonna be missing.
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But I like to think of it in a way of in the worst case scenario, trying to keep our life as normal as possible, especially we have children, but this episode also applies if you do not have children.
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But you're you're not gonna rush back to work, right?
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You're not gonna resume your nine to five if something tragic happens and unexpected happens to your partner.
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Yeah.
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And and even, you know, there are we have so many examples of people in our lives getting diagnosed with things that are unexpected and could be terminal.
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And so putting life insurance in place, hopefully while you're young, hopefully while you're healthy, that's the best scenario because you save the most amount of money.
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Yes.
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Um, but it's it's one of those things where you need to keep your life as calm and peaceful as possible in the chaos and thinking about like the life changes that you would potentially have to make if you didn't have that income coming in or you didn't have that protection to say, you know what, I'm not gonna go back to work for the foreseeable future and I'm gonna work on my mental health.
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I'm gonna make sure that me and my kids go to therapy, I'm gonna take care of the estate, you know, so to speak.
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I mean, there's so much that goes into handling somebody's passing.
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You can't just go pick up and go to the grocery store and like have a normal life after that.
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You just don't.
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Not for a while, anyway.
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And the thing is, you like what I try to do for people is paint a realistic picture when we're talking about putting life insurance in place and how much you should have.
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Because when you're just talking about numbers, that doesn't really, you know, hit with people.
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Like, oh, a million dollars in coverage, two million dollars in coverage.
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What does that no?
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I need to talk about what it's gonna actually look like in the event if, you know, say you're a family of four and one of the uh spouses passes away.
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What does that look like?
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You know, so say you have two individuals, a husband and wife, that are making$150,000 each.
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All right.
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So they're we're equal on paper when it comes to income.
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Like just said, one of them passes away.
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Do you think they're gonna turn around and just continue working?
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Because I've heard people say to me, like, oh, you know, if one person passes, they still make$150,000.
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You know, that should be, you know, a decent amount to help out with, you know, paying bills.
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And I'm like, there's a lot of money missing.
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One, it's half the income missing, but then also not even that.
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Like, you think that your spouse is really gonna go to work the next day.
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And that your kids are gonna be okay to go to school and that life is just gonna keep going.
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Yeah.
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That's the idea is that like in this scenario, you would want to be able to afford a surviving spouse the time to mourn and also take care of the kids without having to rush back to work because of fear of m not having money.
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Right.
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And even if there are no children, take take care of yourself.
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Yes.
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Even if you've I said to uh to a dual-income household with no kids, take care of yourself, take the time that you need.
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And then even just like some of like the detailed stuff.
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Let's say you have a mortgage and the mortgage is in both of your names, you could potentially lose your mortgage because you are no longer you may not no longer qualify for that mortgage as an individual.
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Yeah, there's so many nuances to losing somebody unexpected that you really have to think about.
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And this is for the long term, right?
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If you have, again, let's use the$150,000 income example.
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If you have young children, the idea is how much income would that person have brought in over the next 10, 15, 20 years?
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It's not just let me get through the next year.
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Yeah.
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And so it's really important, and I know we're gonna get into it, but it's really important to also think about the longevity of what that money can do over the years.
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Yeah.
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So and we've had we've both had very recently had people pass away that are our age, unexpected, and have left families behind.
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Yeah.
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You know, and did not have life insurance in place.
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And that's everyone thinks they're invincible until you're not.
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And it honestly causes a burden.
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And you putting term life insurance, all we're talking about today is term life insurance, putting that in place.
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Well, we are going to define the two different kinds, but the main one we're talking about is term.
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Yeah.
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But having that protection is loving the people you care about.
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Yeah.
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Hard stuff.
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Yeah.
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So kind of go into it, you know.
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The first thing that people always want to wonder is who actually needs life insurance?
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You know, for the most part, here we're talking about income protection.
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And, you know, this is for any person that has any form of responsibility or somebody dependent upon them.
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So for example, easiest one to think of is like Jess and I were parents.
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So if something were to happen to us, you we want to make sure that our kids are taken care of.
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But then also, as you said before, you know, if you are married or with a partner that you guys are financially dependent upon each other, you still need it in that scenario, even if you don't have kids.
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Um, now, one thing that you know is kind of can be up and for debate is when you should get it.
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Because think about someone who's maybe 25 years old, single, doesn't have kids.
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And let's just say they don't have any debt, nobody's financially dependent upon them.
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Then what you're actually thinking there is like, well, what kind of life do you want to live moving forward?
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So if you're someone that's like, hey, I do want to get married in the future, uh, you know, with maybe the next five years, I do want to start having kids maybe in the next, you know, five to 10 years, then it can be very beneficial to go ahead and get a policy in place today.
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Reason being is that in order to get a life insurance policy, first you have to be eligible for one, you have to qualify for it.
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So they're gonna take into account your age and your health mainly.
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Yeah.
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Now, one thing that we know is as we get older, we can't predict the future.
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There are things that can happen from a health standpoint that could possibly make you ineligible for a policy or significantly increase the cost.
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And then also as you get older, it doesn't matter how healthy you are, the older you are, the more a policy costs.
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So the cheapest policy that you're going to be able to get is literally today.
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Right.
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As an individual.
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Well, and I want everybody that's listening to pause and just think about your circle, your family, your close friends, and the things that have happened as you've aged.
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I mean, I can say just for myself, right?
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I mean, we got our policies and then I had my thyroid removed.
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Then I had two C-sections.
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Now I've got, you know, some autoimmune things.
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We know people who've been diagnosed with lupus, with MS, with um, you know, autoimmune things.
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And it kind of, you kind of wake up and it came out of nowhere.
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And once you have that on your record, getting that life insurance policy is going to cost you more.
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So yeah, when you're 25, the last thing on your mind, unless you've been having these conversations with your family, is I want to spend, you know, 30 or 40 extra dollars a month on life insurance, whatever it might cost based on that age and your health rating.
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But that's really the best time to get it.
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Because listen, shit happens when you get older and like your body is not the same.
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And we all know people who have had even cancers pop up.
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You know, I know several people with thyroid cancer.
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I know several people who've gotten breast cancer before they turn 35.
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I mean, y'all, we all know somebody.
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Okay.
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So it's also very affordable when you're when you're younger.
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When you're young and healthy, it's very affordable.
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Yeah.
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Now, the key is, like I said, making sure that you have the right kind of policy.
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But the idea is that you want to try to put these things in place when you can and not necessarily waiting until you need them because at that point in time, it may be significantly more expensive or you may not qualify because of things that have happened from a health standpoint.
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Right.
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Now, one thing also, for example, like we have policies on our kids.
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Now, the reason that we have policies on our kids is because it has a writer on it, which is an additional feature of the policy that allows them to get additional life insurance as an adult without having to go through medical underwriting.
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So we've already ensured that they're going to be able to get a certain amount of life insurance regardless of what happens to them from a health standpoint.
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So it ensures their insurability.
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Correct.
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Right.
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Which is another form of protection because again, we cannot predict the future and heaven forbid something happen, and then they, you know, have a spouse and get and have children, et cetera.
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We want them to have these protections in place.
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And so it's it's the really thinking about the long term while also understanding that life happens, it's unpredictable, and we need to put these protections in place when we can.
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I mean, I was even talking to my brother about it, uh, because I know that he doesn't have life insurance.
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And, you know, he's kind of of the mindset of, well, I'll just wait.
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I'll wait until I'm married.
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I'm wait until I'll have children.
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And I'm like, Boo-boo, you are about to be mid-30s.
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Like, get it now because you're just getting older.
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Get it now while you're healthy.
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Get it now while you're lean and fit, you know, get it now before you have something that pops up.
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And, you know, he tried to battle me on it, but hindsight is always 2020.
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And we know plenty of people that are like, man, I should have done this five years ago when I you've had people that have gone through underwriting.
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They have reached out, they're like, we're ready, they've gone through underwriting, have gotten, I'm assuming, you know, good ratings, maybe a good price, and then never moved forward and then came back, you know, four or five years later, and now the policy is two, three times, or they've had some sort of health issue, and now it's like, ooh, this is gonna cost you a lot.
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Yeah, because I mean there's a lot of things that, you know, I don't think a lot of people realize.
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Like the biggest aspect of the cost for life insurance policy is the medical underwriting.
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And that could be from like your current, you know, physical shape.
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It can also be from different medical things that you've had happen in the past.
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I mean, even now, you know, from like, you know, things are showing up in regards to mental health aspects as well.
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So you know, even just things like ADHD, you know, showing up on life insurance underwriting, and you know, make that that could be a reason for different cost when it comes to certain individuals.
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So that's why I'm saying, like, normally as you get older, you don't necessarily get healthier per se for most people.
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Yeah.
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So it's like go ahead and put it in place, you know, while you can.
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Well, and even if you do, right?
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Like if you're like on a health journey and you've lowered your cholesterol, you're, you know, you had high blood pressure, now you don't, or you've lost weight.
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Like those are all positive things.
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But guess what?
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You can't change your age.
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Yeah.
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It's only going to go up.
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And that's automatically.
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And to be honest, like, you know, like there's a difference that kind of jumps for you know normal intervals.
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So like in your 20s, going through your 20s one year, two years in your 20s isn't a huge difference.
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Makes a difference like when it hits the 30.
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Then, like the few years in between in your 30s, not a big deal.
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Then you see a jump at 40.
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Yeah.
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So get it before those miles.
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Now, somebody, like for example, someone who doesn't maybe need life insurance, if you're wealthy.
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So like you could technically self-insure if you're wealthy.
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Yeah, but the wealthy still use life insurance.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So I was gonna say, because it's literally a way to pass down wealth.
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I'm just saying, like, you know, from a monetary standpoint, as far as like somebody being dependent upon, um dependent upon you from a financial standpoint, if you have enough wealth to leave behind, you don't necessarily need one.
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But like I said, they still have life insurance policies for specific reasons.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, for the for the normal person, and if we're thinking about black and brown communities, a lot of times that's where the generational wealth is lost, right?
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You have somebody, maybe they were first-time homeowners in their family, somebody passes away, the mortgage was set to auto-pay, nobody has access to it.
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Now we can't cover it because we're missing one person's income.
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And then now that house is in for foreclosure, right?
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Yeah.
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I mean, there's so many like things that can be going down a different path when you're talking about.
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Well, but but I'm what I'm saying is if you're really thinking long-term and trying to also help set your family up.
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But we want to stay on.
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You're going deep down towards more like estate planning, legacy planning, stuff like that.
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We're just gonna stay on the high-level aspect of life insurance.
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I hear you.
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Okay.
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I'm just listening no more GoFundMe funerals.
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Yes, I agree with you.
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No more.
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Like, enough.
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Stop.
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Yes.
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Stop.
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Get your life insurance.
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Okay, next.
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But um the next thing that people kind of go into is what type of life insurance do I actually need?
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And this is where it, you know, life insurance gets a bad rap.
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IULs.
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Just any all right, so there's two main different types.
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There's two, you know, term life insurance and permanent life insurance.
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And then there's various types of permanent life insurance where like most people heard it, it's referred to as like whole life, like you said, IULs, VULs, there's a bunch of other ones out there, okay?
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But as a high-level overview, as far as the term insurance, term insurance is exactly what it says.
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It is put in place for a certain term period.
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That could be 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, whatever it may be, but it's designed to replace your income in those high-risk years, which is like your prime earning years where you haven't maybe acquired a bunch of wealth because you're still in your, you know, early stages of your career, maybe, or middle stages of your career.
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But the idea is that it's either use it or lose it.
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So you have the policy in place for say a 20-year term and you're paying for it.
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And the amount that you're paying for those 20 years is the same every year.
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And the idea is at the end of the 20 years, you hopefully didn't use it, obviously, but you don't have anything left over.
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Which is why people are like, then I just threw my money away.
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It's kind of like you're rent, you're it's kind of like you're renting.